The Robertson and Easterling Podcast

We are now in our 5th season of production of The Robertson and Easterling Podcast, with over 10,000 downloads.  We think if you take the time to listen, you will have a better understanding of the journey upon which you are about to embark.

The cool thing about the podcast is the platform it creates for you to privately engage with the stories of other brave people that not only went before you, but were also willing to talk about it.  In addition, this is the opportunity to become free and take control of your life and the transformation you are seeking. In this groundbreaking, Mississippi focused podcast, you will hear deep discussions about marriage, parenting, divorce and post-divorce recovery from former clients, mental health professionals and others who work in and around the legal system or who have special knowledge they are willing to offer.  We have also published shows with people who have overcome hard circumstances to stay together.

You will hear informative, refreshing and inspiring real life stories and practical advice from the hosts and their guests. Whether you are seeking to enrich your marriage or begin the next chapter of your journey through divorce, this creative podcast will arm you with the information you need to live healthy and whole.

We are excited to continue our partnership with Kelly Engelmann, the founder of Enhanced Wellness Living, Mississippi’s leading Functional Medicine Clinic. Her team’s food-first approach to healing along with a variety of lifestyle and regenerative treatment options sets you on a journey to take control of your health and live life well.

We are also sponsored by our producers, Blue Sky Podcasting.  At Blue Sky Podcasting, they realize you want to be a confident and modern communicator. In order to do that, a successful podcast is almost mandatory. The problem is you’re unclear about the process or just too busy to run a podcast by yourself. Blue Sky wants you to be heard. They have helped lead 100’s of brands to success over the last 10 years.

New to the podcast this year is Adam Black.  Adam is a mortgage specialist. “Should I Stay or Should I Go” is not just a classic song by The Clash, it is the internal dialogue of our clients, especially in the early stages of the divorce process which entails both the physical structure of the home and the more intangible relational dynamic.  Adam is a real estate collaboration specialist with a focus on divorce mortgage management, who can help you break down the challenges of the post-COVID housing market, featuring low inventory, high prices and both inflation and interest rates on the rise. This fast-paced show will highlight the importance of working with a mortgage professional early in the process and familiarize the listener about the current real estate market.

Finally, we are excited to work with Rocks to Rivers.  Rocks to Rivers is an adventure based coaching organization that helps you become AWAKE, AWARE and ALIVE.



Real. Life. Stories.

61.Preston and Jennifer Crowe: Some Call it Chaos but We Call it Family

Season 5 Episode 11: Preston and Jennifer Crowe: Some Call it Chaos but We Call it Family

In honor of National Adoption Month, Craig and a special guest have a conversation with Preston and Jennifer Crowe, who have both biological and adoptive children, and who have fostered dozens of infants throughout their marriage. Preston is a pastor who works vocationally in mental health, and Jennifer is a high-energy fitness instructor, homeschool teacher and mom. Together, they talk about their marriage, foster parenting and fitness, plus they tell their own adoption story, which was only made possible by opening their own home to the temporary placement of children waiting for forever families.

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60. Healing Hands with Massage Therapist DeSheila Hughes

  1. Healing Hands with Massage Therapist DeSheila Hughes

Living Waters Massage Therapy Clinic helps clients understand self-care is necessary to maintain overall wellness in mind, body, and spirit.  After a session with a LWMT therapist, you will have a clearer understanding of your body needs. Craig Robertson sits down with LWMTC founder, DeSheila Hughes, who has been a National and State Licensed Massage Therapist since 2005. Although not her first choice of careers, she talks about how God’s Plan is the best plan. About her work, Desheila says, “When I can see the physical, mental, and emotional change in my clients, I am overjoyed.” She is best known for deep tissue massage, trigger-point therapy, acupressure, plus foot and hand reflexology.

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59. Complicated Compound Bereavement – 20 Years Later

59.  Complicated Compound Bereavement – 20 Years Later

In this moving episode, Craig sits down with Alex, who lost his parents to a murder/suicide when he was only 3. Raised by his maternal grandparents, Alex gives his perspective on the tragic end to his parents’ divorce, and it’s surprising positive impact on his life. In this show we discuss suicidal and homicidal thoughts and ideation. If that subject is too confronting, perhaps skip this show. If you are struggling, please raise your hand and reach out for help. You can call SAMHSA’s National Helpline at 1-800-662-HELP and if you are experiencing suicidal ideation, know you’re not alone. We encourage you to call the Suicide Prevention Hotline at 1(800)273-TALK.

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58. Mississippi Divorce 101 with Craig Robertson and Matt Easterling

  1. Mississippi Divorce 101 with Craig Robertson and Matt Easterling

Are you contemplating divorce? Is someone you love experiencing difficult family dynamics?  If so, there are many questions that need answers – What constitutes grounds, who gets custody of the children, how do we divide our money, and what if I am dependent on my spouse? Veteran family law attorneys Matt Easterling and Craig Robertson break down the ins and outs in this informative show, providing a unique, professional perspective of what to expect if you or someone you love needs to explore information about divorce.

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57. Branden Henry: The Hungry Ghosts

  1. Branden Henry: The Hungry Ghosts

Every week in our office, we see how addiction steals the joy from marriages. In this show, Craig sits down with guest host Bill Blair and Dr. Branden Henry for a conversation about both process and substance addiction, including its causes, the journey of recovery and the special considerations for the addicts’ partners. Branden is a creative mental health provider trained in treating trauma and 12-step recovery work. Being in recovery himself, he has both a personal and engaging perspective on the subject.  Branden is the founder of Red River Counseling, and he and Bill work together in the adventure-based coaching organization called Rocks to Rivers.

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56. Dea Dean: Intolerance for Negative Emotion in Other People

Dea Dean: Intolerance for Negative Emotion in Other People

In today’s show, Matt and Craig sit down with one of our favorite local mental health providers, Dea Dean. Dea is insightful and full of life and energy. The conversation swings from perception of one’s own backstory, involving “naming” an experience without blaming families of origin, to a discussion about the parentification of children whose parents, for whatever reason, are unavailable to meet their children’s needs. Craig shares a few thoughts about his own life experience, and Dea gives respectful feedback about his journey, as great therapists do, without sitting on a throne of judgment.

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55. The Birkman Method with Trey Carroll

The Birkman Method with Trey Carroll

Graduation Season is a great time to consider new beginnings, so Craig and Matt had a conversation with Trey Carroll, the founder and a coach at The NexTest Advantage. Trey changed majors 5 times in college, worked 8 different jobs and lived in 12 countries before suffering a stroke at the age of 28. Searching for direction, he took several personality and career assessments, but the Birkman Method changed his life. In this fast-paced show, we discuss how the the Birkman Method helps people of all ages discover how they are wired and how it is revealed in both personal and professional relationships.

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54. Big Livin’ with Bill Blair and Dr. Branden Henry

Big Livin’ with Bill Blair and Dr. Branden Henry

Rocks to Rivers is an adventure based coaching organization founded by pastor, life coach and climbing instructor, Bill Blair.  Craig sits down with Bill and his Rocks to Rivers co-leader Dr. Branden Henry to not only talk about the work of the organization, but also the struggle men have to find adventure, play and camaraderie as adults navigating the modern world.  If you feel stuck and are looking to find deeper meaning in life and your true self, you will not want to miss this conversation.

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Bonus Episode – Craig and Kelly Englemann Discuss A Radical Day of Extreme Self-Care

Craig Robertson was a guest on The All Things Sexual Wellness Podcast with R+E sponsor Kelly Engelmann.  Self-care has become a buzzword in this modern day. But men rarely talk about their self-care practices.  Listen as Craig walks us through his radical day of extreme self-care. The host also talked with Craig about some of his discoveries throughout the day as he cared for his mind, body, soul, and spirit and how it impacted how he approaches self-care today.

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53. Avery’s Story: A Relationship with a Stranger

Avery’s Story:  A Relationship with a Stranger

Avery is an introvert who worked hard and excelled in school. She was the first-chair clarinet who loved to read. Being in relationships did not come naturally for her, so she cherished them greatly when they happened. After she and her fiance ended their long-term engagement, her study partner in graduate school suggested they should be more than friends. Although she had never given the idea any thought, it became all she could think about. When school was over, they decided to make a life together, but when she was three months pregnant with their first child, he gave her a letter that changed everything.


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I’ve had the privilege to work with both Craig and Matt and can say they both are outstanding to work with. From the moment I walked into their offices to finalizing my legal issues to questions that come up periodically they are always available and able to offer excellent legal advice. Would recommend them without hesitation.

We used Robertson & Easterling to finalize 5 adoptions. The staff is wonderful and Craig goes above and beyond to make sure your experience is smooth and worry free. We will definitely use them again and would recommend them to any family.

I trust Craig Robertson & Matt Easterling. These guys know what they are doing and are highly respected in the Family Law arena. I consistently recommended this group and always received huge thanks from clients that have worked with R+E.

In my child custody/guardianship case, Craig told us what to expect, how to deal with it and takes care of details. As issues have arisen over time, he (or his firm) have kept us on top of things. His strong suit is in the courtroom. He knows the law and has the confidence to carry it through. Would recommend him highly.

Who knew that family law attorneys could be pro-family? Matt and Craig are for their clients. They want what’s best for you. If that means having you work harder to stay married, they’re for it. If it means having difficult conversations to expose irrational thought processes, they have them. These guys are interested in the person that walks in the door not the check book in their pocket. I appreciate the time they spent with me. They help me understand my options and how they would potentially affect all parties involved. Thank you R+E!

Robertson & Easterling are simply the very best in their field!! I hired Matt for my divorce, and it was the best decision for me and my situation. On the very first phone call, I was put me at ease with compassion and care. From start to finish the level of detailed knowledge, professionalism, warmth, and above and beyond service, are what make this firm a standout. More importantly, they possess a very high level of integrity, honor and trustworthiness, making them, in my opinion, priceless and invaluable. You are in good hands with them, and I highly recommend Robertson & Easterling!

I just wanted to thank you for all of your hard work in helping to finalize the child support settlement. You did an excellent job, and I would highly recommend you to anyone seeking expert legal advice.

Matthew Easterling was the epitome of both professionalism and compassion as he helped our family during an absolute legal crisis. Our case was unique in many aspects; including the fact that a criminal court component was involved. He not only handled our family court issues wonderfully, but he was an asset to our criminal attorney in those proceedings as well.

During the darkest days of my life I was referred to Matt Easterling by a family member. He represented me in a very complicated custody case and divorce. And then again when the situation got worse. I was being attacked at every angle and I felt like Matt came to my rescue. He worked endlessly on my case to help me get the results that I was happy and comfortable with. I felt he was very knowledgeable and always felt like I was in good hands. I would not only recommend him, but highly recommend him to anyone in need. Thanks, Matt! For everything!

Thanks for everything you did to make this divorce as painless as possible. As I said in the beginning, I wanted it my way or I would not be happy. Today, I walked out of your office with a smile on my face. I never thought I would get everything I wanted. If it wasn’t for my faith in God and my trust in you, I do not know how I would have made it to today. Again, thank you for doing such a great job! Hope we can meet on better terms in the future.

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